The Omnivore's Dilemma

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i'm having fun with JAG and Shakespeare, and i'm not done there yet, but i'm also reading The Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael Pollan -- a narrative, well-documented look at the simple question of what to eat in modern, industrial society.

i'm through section 1 of 3 and "i'm lovin it" (is that copyrighted?). i expect to be evangelizing for the book after i finish, and holding it up as a recipe for one of the common sense actions we're always seeking...

among the nuggets he's already hit on:

* mockery of the Atkin's diet, and all fad diets

* a posing of the question: how have we come to be so disconnected -- to know so little about -- the food we eat?

* a fascinating look at the history of corn -- from it's falling in with mankind to it's uberdominance in our modern diets

* a basic analysis of food politics in the US -- how capitalism has sought to grapple with the problem of the "fixed stomach" (we can only eat so much)

* analysis of energy issues related to food production -- biological as well as geological/cultural

* a breakdown of the supermarket that would make my beloved Murray Jay Siskind (of Delillo's White Noise) proud

* the history of "supersizing"

a few quotes...
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What is perhaps most troubling, and sad, about industrial eating is how thoroughly it obscures all these relationships and connections. To go from the chicken (Gallus gallus) to the Chicken McNugget is to leave this world in a journey of forgetting that could hardly be more costly, not only in terms of the animal's pain but in our pleasure, too. But forgetting, or not knowing in the first place, is what the industrial food chain is all about, the principal reason it is so opaque, for if we could see what lies on the far side of the increasingly high walls of our industrial agriculture, we would surely change the way we eat.

"Eating is an agricultural act," as Wendell Berry famously said. It is also an ecological act, and a political act, too. Though much has been done to obscure this simple fact, how and what we cat determines to a great extent the use we make of the world -- and what is to become of it. To eat with a fuller consciousness of all that is at stake might sound like a burden, but in practice few things in life can afford quite as much satisfaction. By comparison, the pleasures of eating industrially, which is to say eating in ignorance, are fleeting. Many people today seem perfectly content eating at the end of an industrial food chain, with a thought in the world; this book is probably not for them. there are things in it that will ruin their appetites. But in the the end this is a book about the pleasures of eating, the kinds of pleasure that are only deepened by knowing.

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The flood of synthetic nitrogen has fertilized not just the farm fields but the forests and the oceans too, to the benefit of some species (corn an algae being two of the biggest beneficiaries), and to the detriment of countless others. The ultimate fate of the nitrates that George Naylor spreads on his corn fields in Iowa is to flow down the Mississippi into the Gulf of Mexico, where their deadly fertility poisons the marine ecosystem. The nitrogen tide stimulates the wild growth of algae, and the algae smother the fiissh, creating a "hypoxic," or dead, zone as big as the stare of New Jersey--and still growing. By fertilizing the world, we alter the planet's composition of species and shrink its biodiversity.

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Resistant starch, the last novelty on that list of ingredients, has the corn refiners particularly excited today. They've figured out how to tease a new starch from corn that is virtually indigestible. You would not think this as a particularly good thing for a food to be, unless of course your goal is to somehow get around the biological limit on how much each of us can eat in a year. Since the body can't break down resistant starch, it slips through the digestive track without ever turning into calories of glucose -- a particular boon, we're told, for diabetics. When fake sugars and fake fats are joined by fake starches, the food industry will at long last have overcome the dilemma of the fixed stomach: whole meals you can eat as often or as much of as you like, since this food will leave no trace. Meet the ultimate -- the utterly elastic! -- industrial eater.

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Very simply, we subsidize high-fructose corn syrup in this country, but not carrots. While the surgeon general is raising alarms over the epidemic of obesity, the president is signing farm bills designed to keep the river of cheap corn flowing, guaranteeing that the cheapest calories in the supermarket will continue to be the unhealthiest.

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UCS report on CAFOs

the Union of Concerned Scientists does a lot of good work on food/environmental policy. they just released a report about CAFOs that looks excellent at a glance. more generally, the Sustainable Food section of their web site looks like it has some great resources that overlap with a lot of the issues discussed in OD.

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Pollan on Democracy Now!

Amy Goodman interviewed Michael Pollan recently, and it was broadcast on today's Democracy Now! (22:45).

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Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.

"Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."

those 7 words are Michael Pollan's new Eater's Manifesto.

NPR's Steve Inskeep did a 15 minute interview w/ him recently. worth a listen. (not sure when i'll get to the book, but i will read it...)

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organic food can read the world

interesting Univ of Michigan study counters a common argument against organic farming -- that it can't yield enough food to "feed the world" -- by suggesting that it can essentially match the output of conventional farming. (pointed to the study by the Union of Concerned Scientists.)

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morals of hunting and the perfect meal

finished the book last week... i want to write some wrap-up thoughts soon, but before leaving town for a week i wanted to offer 2 final quotations...

first, some thoughts after hunting and killing a pig for his meal:

So which view of me the hunter is the right one, the shame at the photograph or the joy of the man in it, the outside gaze or the inside one? The moralist is eater to decide the is question once and for all, to join Cotton Mather in his noble quest for a more complete transcendence. The hunter-- or at least the grown-up hunter, the uneasy hunter-- recognizes the truths disclosed in both views, which is why his joy is tempered by shame, his appetite shadowed by disgust.

The fact that you cannot come out of hunting feeling unambiguously good about it is perhaps what should commend the practice to us. You certainly don't come out of it eager to protest your innocence. If I've learned anything about hunting and eating met it's that it's even messier than the moralist thinks. Having killed a ping and looked at myself in that picture and now looking for4ard (if that's the word) to eating that pig, I have to say there is a part of me that envies the moral clarity of the vegetarian, the blamelessness of the tofu eater. Yet part of me pities him, too. Dreams of innocence are just that; they usually depend on a denial of reality that can be its own form of hubris. Ortega suggests that there is an immorality in failing to look clearly at reality, or in believing that the sheer forces of human will can somehow overcome it. "The preoccupation with what should be is estimable only when the respect for what is has been exhausted."

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lastly, some thoughts on "the perfect meal"--one that Pollan has for the most part hunted, foraged, and gathered himself:

Perhaps the perfect meal is one that's been fully paid for, that leave no debt outstanding. This is almost impossible ever to do, which is why I said there was nothing very realistic or applicable about this meal. But as a sometimes thing, as a kind of ritual, a meal that is eaten in full consciousness of what it took to make it is worth preparing every now and again, if only as a way to remind us of the true costs of the things we take for granted. The reason I didn't open a can of stock was because stock doesn't come from a can; it comes from the bones of animals. And the yeast that leavens our bread comes not from a packet but from the air we breathe. The meal was more ritual than realistic because it dwelled on such things, reminding us how very much nature offers to the omnivore, the forests as much as the fields, the oceans as much as the meadows. If I had to give this dinner a name, it would have to be the Omnivore's Thanksgiving.

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The Omnivore's Dilemma

almost done w/ the book (i don't read too fast these days). the third section of the book is dedicated to the "Personal" food chain, in which Pollan attempts to hunt and gather his own meal (with experienced guides) from the California forests near his home. (to recap, the first section of the book dealt with the "Industrial" food chain, centered around corn, and the second section dealt with the "Pastoral" food chain, centered around grass.)

as the book comes to a close, he revisits the "Ominivore's Dilemma" in more detail -- having evolved as omnivores, with such a wealth of food choices as a species, what should we eat? it was fun to think of this question from a more biological and anthropological standpoint:

The price of this dietary flexibility is much more complex and metabolically expensive brain circuitry. For the omnivore a tremendous amount of mental wiring must be devoted to sensory and cognitive tools for figuring out which of all these questionable nutrients it is safe to eat. There's just too much information involved in food selection to encode every potential food and poison in the genes. So instead of genes to write our menus omnivores evolved a complicated set of sensory and mental tools to help us sort everything out. Some of these tools are fairly straightforward and we share them with many other mammals; others represent impressive feats of adaptation by primates; still others straddle the blurry line between natural selection and cultural invention.

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Yet the surfeit of choice that confronts the omnivore brings stresses and anxieties also undreamed of by the cow or the koala, for whom the distinction between The Good Things to Eat and the Bad is second nature. And while our senses can help us draw the first rough distinctions between the good and bad foods, we humans have to rely on culture to remember and keep it all straight. So we codify the rules of wise eating in an elaborate structure of taboos, rituals, manners, and culinary traditions, covering everything from the proper size of portions to the order in which foods should be consumed to the kinds of animals it is and is not okay to eat. Anthropologists argue over whether all these rules make biological sense -- some, like the kosher rules, are probably designed more to enforce a group identity rather than to protect health. But certainly a great many of our food rules to makes biological sense, and they keep each of us from having to confront the omnivore's dilemma every time we visit the supermarket or sit down to eat.

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Artisanal vs Industrial Economies

i've been posting mostly negative/critical quotes, which isn't fair... i'm trying to keep track of some general "guiding principles" tidbits, and will make a "positive" post about that after i finish.

here's a little gem following up my post about "$$$ costs". it's an idea i find affirming and fascinating, especially as it informs my own work...

Late in our conversation, Joel asked Bev and me if we'd seen a recent column by Allan Nation in Stockman Grass Farmer about "artisanal economics." Drawing on the theories of Harvard Business School professor Michael Porter, Nation had distinguished between industrial and artisanal enterprises to demonstrate why attempts to blend the two modes seldom succeed. Industrial farmers are in the business of selling commodities, he explained, a business where the only viable competitive strategy is to be the least-cost producer. The classic way any industrial producer lowers the costs of his product is by substituting capital--new technologies and fossil-fuel energy--for skilled labor and then stepping up production, exploiting the economies of scale to compensate for shrinking profit margins. In a commodity business a producer must sell ever more cheaply and grow ever bigger or be crushed by a competitor who does.

Nation contrasted this industrial model with its polar opposite, what he calls "artisanal production, " where the competitive strategy is based on selling something special rather than being the least-cost producers of a commodity. Stressing that "productivity and profits are two entirely different concepts, " Nation suggest that even a small producer can be profitable so long as he's selling an exceptional product and keeping his expenses down. Yet this artisanal model works only so long as it doesn't attempt to imitate the industrial model in any respect. It must not try to replace skilled labor with capital; it must not grow for the sake of growth; it should not strive for uniformity in its products but rather make a virtue of variation and seasonality; it shouldn't invest capital to reach national markets but rather should focus on local markets, relying on reputation and work of mouth rather than on advertising; and lastly it should rely as much as possible on free solar energy rather than costly fossil fuels.

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food and fossil fuel energy

[Earthbound Farms' plant in California] washes and packs 2.5 million pounds of lettuce a week; when you think just how many baby leaves it takes to make a pound, that represents a truly stupendous amount of lettuce. It also represents a truly stupendous amount of energy: to run the machines and chill the building, not to mention to transport all that salad to supermaerkets across the country in refrigerated trucks and to manufacture the plastic containers it's packed in. A one-pound box of prewashed lettuce contains 80 calories of food energy. According to Cornell ecologist David Pimental, growing, chilling, washing, packaging, and transporting that box of organic salad to a plate on the East Coast takes more than 4,600 calories of fossil fuel energy, or 57 calories of fossil fuel energy for every calorie of food. (These figures would be about 4 percent higher if the salad were grown conventionally.)

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But perhaps most discouraging of all, my industrial organic meal is nearly as drenched in fossil fuel as its conventional counterpart. Asparagus traveling in a 747 from Argentina; blackberries trucked up from Mexico; a salad chilled to thirty-six degrees from the moment it was picked in Arizona (where Earthbound moves its entire operation every winter) to the moment I walk it out the doors of my Whole Foods. The food industry burns nearly a fifth of all the petroleum consumed in the United States (about as much as automobiles do). Today it takes between seven and ten calories of fossil fuel energy to deliver once calorie of food energy to an American plate. And while it is true that organic farmers don't spread fertilizers made from natural gas or spray pesticides made from petroleum, industrial organic farmers often wind up burning more diesel fuel than their conventional counterparts: in trucking bulky loads of compost across the countryside and weeding their fields, a particularly energy-intensive process involving extra irrigation (to germinate the weeds before planting) and extra cultivation. All told, growing food organically uses about a third less fossil fuel than growing it conventionally, according to David Pimental, though that savings disappears if the compost is nt produces on site or nearby.

Yet growing the food is the least of it: only a fifth of the total energy used to feed us is consumed on the farm; the rest is spent processing the food and moving it around. At least in terms of the fuel burned to get it from the farm to my table, there's little reason to think my Cascadian Farm TV dinner or Earthbound Farm spring mix salad is any more sustainable than a conventional TV dinner or salad would have been.
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So is an industrial organic food chain finally a contradiction in terms? It's hard to escape the conclusion that it is.

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non-dollar costs

a gem of a quote. i find myself coming back to this very point in lots of contexts recently... the cause for so many ills in our society: we focus solely on $$$ costs, to the exclusion of all others.

The ninety-nine-cent price of a fast-food hamburger simply doesn't take account of the meal's true cost--to soil, oil, public health, the public purse, etc, costs which are never charged directly to the consumer but, indirectly and invisibly to the taxpayer (in the form of subsidies), the health care system (in the form of food-borne illnesses and obesity), and the environment (in the form of pollution), not to mention the welfare of the workers in the feedlot and the slaughterhouse and the welfare of the animals themselves.

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history of organic

Pollan has taken a good run through the history of the organic movement -- interesting stuff. a couple of quotes from the end of that...

A charge often leveled against organic agriculture is that it is more philosophy than science. There's some thrush to this indictment, if that is what it is, though why organic farmers should feel defensive about it is itself a mystery, a relic, perhaps, of our fetishism of science as the only credible tool with which to approach nature.
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As it happens, in the years since [English agronomist and organic pioneer Sir Albert] Howard wrote, science has provided support for a great many of his unscientific claims: Plants grown in synthetically fertilized soils are less nourishing than ones grown in composted soils; such plants are more vulnerable to diseases and insect pests; polycultures are more productive and less prone to disease than monocultures; and that in fact the health of the soil, plant, animal, human, and even nation are, as Howard claimed, connected along lines we can now begin to draw with empirical confidence. We may not be prepared to act on this knowledge, but we know that civilizations that abuse their soil eventually collapse.

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Throughout its history, the sharpest growth of organic has closely followed spiked in public concern over the industrial food supply. Some critics condemn organic for profiting time and again from "food scares," and while there is certainly some truth to this charge, whether it represents a more serious indictment of organic or industrial food is open to question. Organic farmers reply that episodes focusing public attention on pesticides, food poisoning, genetically modified crops, and mad cow disease serve as "teachable moments" about the industrial food system and its alternatives. Alar was one of the first.

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industrial organic

the book is divided into 3 sections, based on "the three principal food chains that sustain us today: the industrial, the organic, and the hunter-gatherer." my previous quotes above were from the first section of the book, the "industrial". i'm in the second now: "pastoral".

he starts out by taking a look at a "sustainable" farm -- a fascinating and diverse place in Virginia that turns out lots and lots of beef, pork, chicken, turkey, eggs -- and does it in a way that actually enhances its own ecology. the farm's owner is militant about sustainability vs "organic":

If i said I was organic, people would fuss at me for getting feed corn from a neighbor who might be using atrazine. Well, I would much rather use my money to keep my neighborhood productive and healthy than export my dollars five hundred miles away to get "pure product" that's really coated in diesel fuel. There are a whole lot more variables in making the right decision than does the chicken feed have chemicals or not.

from there we're back to the supermarket, my favorite place, and we get into a discussion of "industrial organic"... all those little write-ups on the side of food packages describing how heavenly the farm is for the animals; the compelling farm histories lining the aisles at Whole Foods; the mass marketing and packaging of the "organic" label... it's its own literary genre, Pollan says, "Supermarket Pastoral". (what would Rosalind think of that, jag?)

Yet the organic label itself -- like every other such label in the supermarket -- is really just an imperfect substitute for direct observation of how a food is produced, a concession to the reality that most people in an industrial society haven't the time or the inclination to follow their food back to the farm, a farm which today is apt to be, on average, fifteen hundred miles away. So to bridge that space we rely on certifiers and label writers and, to a considerable extent, our imagination of what the farms that are producing our food really look like. The organic label may conjure an image of a simpler agriculture, but its very existence is an industrial artifact. The question is, what about the farms themselves? How well do they match the stories told about them?

ties in with all of our media literacy discussions... (this is the kind of stuff i want to study. i want Murray Jay Siskind's job.)

Supermarket Pastoral is a most seductive literary form, beguiling enough to survive in the face of a great many discomfiting facts. I suspect that's because it gratifies some of our deepest, oldest longings, not merely for safe food, but for a connection to the earth and to the handful of domesticated creatures we've long depended on. Whole Foods understands all this better than we do. One of the company's marketing consultants explained to me that the Whole Foods shopper feels that by buying organic he is "engaging in authentic experiences" and imaginatively enacting a "return to a utopian past with the positive aspects of modernity intact."

yeah! and we're off to look at the history of the organic movement in the US, and how some of the industrial organic farms actually work.

great stuff. more coming soon...

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Dead Zone Grows

i just saw a note from the Union of Concerned Scientists that the dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico has grown. (they're obviously well aware of related pop publications like Pollan's book, but from what i can tell they do great work.)

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McNuggets and other choice cuts

i'd slowed down for a while, but am glad to be moving through this book again. yes, RED, it's yours when i'm done (though i've already been recommending it to a lot of folks...).

anyway, the book's really quotable, so i'm going to try to keep a steady stream of these coming (the last one below is the gem, but the others are fun and build up to it)...

The ingredients listed in the flyer suggest a lot of thought goes into a nugget, that and a lot of corn. Of the thirty-eight ingredients it takes to make a McNugget, I counted thirteen that can be derived from corn: the corn-fed chicken itself; modified cornstarch (to bind the pulverized chicken meat); mono-, tri-, and diglycerides (emulsifiers, which keep the fats and water from separating); dextrose; lecithin (another emulsifier); chicken broth (to restore some of the flavor that processing leaches out); yellow corn flour and more modified cornstarch (for the batter); cornstarch (a filler); vegetable shortening; partially hydrogenated corn oil; and citric acid as a preservative.
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According to the handout, McNuggets also contain several completely synthetic ingredients, quasiedible substances that ultimately come not from a corn or soybean field but from a petroleum refinery or chemical plant. These chemicals are what make modern processed foods possible, by keeping the organic materials in them from going bad or looking strange after months in the freezer or on the road.

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That perhaps is what the industrial food chain does best: obscure the histories of the foods it produces by processing them to such an extent that they appear as pure products of culture rather than nature -- things made from plants and animals.... Where does it come from? It comes from McDonald's.

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...all life on earth can be viewed as a competition for the energy captured by plants and stored in carbohydrates, energy we measure in calories. There is a limit to how many of those calories the world's arable land can produce each year, and an industrial meal of meat and processed food consumes -- and wastes -- an unconscionable amount of that energy. To eat corn directly (as Mexicans and many Africans do) is to consume all the energy in that corn, but when you feed that corn to a steer or a chicken, 90 percent of its energy is lost -- to bones or feathers or fur, to living and metabolizing as a steer or chicken. This is why vegetarians advocate eating "low on the food chain"; every step up the chain reduces the amount of food energy by a factor of ten...

another concurring opinon

I just read this book a couple months ago, too. It's a really good piece of work. Michael Pollan writes with the wonder, seriousness, curiosity, and joy that food deserves. He manages to ask the hard questions about what we're doing as a species and as a culture without coming off all high-and-mighty, either.

At a conference i was at recently, i was approached by a vegan proselytizer. Since i'm already vegan, i told her so, thanked her for her advocacy efforts, and we started talking about the horrors of the meat industry. But when i brought up Michael Pollan's book, she looked at me askance and said, "oh, i don't agree with him."

I think she was really offended that this man had taken a hard look at food and had come away from it without becoming dogmatically vegan. But he's asking difficult questions, acknowledging that he doesn't answer them perfectly, and (from what i could tell) has come to a much broader understanding of our role as consumers of organic matter than the stereotypically narrow vegan mindset is willing to take.

I like that he's willing to challenge orthodoxy in both directions while still pushing for a really radical shift in the way that we conceptualize our relationship with our food. I don't agree with the man all the time, but damn i'd love to argue about the finer points with him over dinner.

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I need it.

Can I have it when you're done?
I am eating buckwheat this morning with my wife. But on route to California for our wedding, I ate a McGriddle in the airport. That is one of the only (if not the only) fast food experiences I've had since reading Fast Food Nation. The frightening part is that I was able to suspend all that I learned about the industry and enjoy the delicious taste of whatever it was I ate. Hopefully the buckwheat is scouring any remnants of that meal from my innerds as I write this.

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Yes!! More, more of the dilemma

arh1, I am glad to hear of your enthusiasm for this book, and to see your post about it. Keep it coming. I am enthralled...

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I love it!

Andy keep these posts going, bor. I just read through them during my lunch break (actually read a couple of quotations to interested colleagues), and I'm, again, enthralled.

As far as the Whole Foods critique, I don't think anyone who shops there (including me) would be surprised to learn that marketing and all the disingenuousness that goes along with it has a lot to do with the labels there. But, it still begs the question: is it better, health-wise than the local supermarket--or should I even go so far--as Walmart grocery? Whole Foods, in many ways, and there is nothing I have heard yet to diprove this, is the lesser of two evils. Or are we to assume its only the better dressed of two evils? My sense so far of the book is that were fucked--so far down the road of industrialized food that we have no good options. Or does he speak of options? I guess any options he presented besides planting and eating our own food while fighting the powers that be to have them more carefully produce and label food for the masses, would be a salespitch and consequently dubious. Nevertheless, I'll ask the question, what can a hungry guy do? Anyone know an answer or a source of answers?
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good questions, jag

yep, good questions, jag.

as far as your specific questions about Whole Foods and industrial organic -- he's wading through that thorny question right now -- is it "better" in some way? it's tough to get at that question in an objective way, but he's looking at issues of taste, his health (nutrients + toxicity), health/well-being of the farmers, health of the land...

he's definitely not fatalistic or (like dkg mentioned above) dogmatic in his writing, if the landscape does look grim. at this part of the book, for example, he's very excited about polyface farms, the "sustainable" one in Virginia. but of course that begs the question, that i'm hoping he'll address more explicitly, of whether there's even a hypothetical possibility that such farms could raise enough food to feed us. (that's one criticism i've heard of the local/organic movement: that it simply can't support the quantities required by humanity, and is thus an elitist movement.)

anyway, though the writing seems to not be as strong as the first section, i think Pollan's got a lot more to tell us. i'll keep digesting. and don't forget that your last and simplest question, what can a hungry guy do?, is exactly his initial impetus for the book...

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knowledge and food

It's interesting when I look backwards at myself: how did I become so focused on diet? There has always been something of an ascetic tendency toward food in me--I remember long stints, for instance, of refusing to eat sweets (candy bars, I mean) or drinking pop (--I have been in one of those stints now for a number of years, in fact). But I was also the guy who would make meals of Cookie Crisp cereal, graham crackers and milk or Totinos Party Pizza's. That is, I have always been health conscious, but myopic (certainly, myopia becomes more and more costly in time, with age and "progress"). Now, I watch out for enriched flours (bye bagels and graham crackers), high fructose corn syrup (bye fast food chocolate shakes, which believe it or not, I once used as a condiment), hydronated oils and, of course, sugar, with indulgences here and there (like ginger snap cookies--seriously might be addicted). Indulgence, guilt? these are funny ideas, especially when it comes to food--addictions too, at least in the sense that I just used it anyway.

I like what Pollan says regarding the link between knowledge and food, but it also raises the question of whether we are deluding ourselves. To what extent do "organic" fruits actually taste better than non-organic? To what extent do we actually feel more healthy and energetic? How much of it is in our minds? Now, let me state for the record, I do not think any analysis of the subjectivity of these matters leads ultimately to one's right to go on eating fast food shit or whatever--the bad effects are hardly imagined, even if they aren't as bad as false seductions of "healthy living" would make them seem. That is, just as alcoholism is in no way made less dreadful by evidence that a glass of wine a day is "actually" good for a person, so sucking a less-than-terd through a straw (McDonald's "milk" shake say) is made no healthier by the fact that "organic" food may be less, maybe even much less, salubrious than it is presented to be. How absolute--how obtuse we can be when threatened by change (of course, increasing knowledge were no threat at all were not vanity involved: Don't call me a fool, the fool consistently says).

Pollan writes: "To eat with a fuller consciousness of all that is at stake might sound like a burden, but in practice few things in life can afford quite as much satisfaction. By comparison, the pleasures of eating industrially, which is to say eating in ignorance, are fleeting. Many people today seem perfectly content eating at the end of an industrial food chain, with a thought in the world; this book is probably not for them. there are things in it that will ruin their appetites. But in the the end this is a book about the pleasures of eating, the kinds of pleasure that are only deepened by knowing."

Now, when I lived in Korea, I learned that taste is to some degree subjective. Spicy is spicy, sweet, sweet, etc., but good and bad seem more flexible than one generally takes them to be. In fine, the fish-head soup I choked down on the first day in Korea became something enjoyable 10 months later. So, I resolved to take control of my taste upon returning to the US--I figured that I could teach myself to enjoy whatever I believed was healthful--to the degree, anyway, that taste is subjective. It worked! Now, when I imagine I am eating something over-processed, I even think, man, it tastes fake. More importantly, I have done well in ending or shaping better cravings (though, to curb my ginger snap craving, I buy them only once a month).

Knowing all this, you might guess at my shock when I hear that health may be less a truth and more a spurious label. The "pleasures of eating" have never interested me much. I more usually eat for energy than for taste. And yet, perhaps by a great deal of delusion, I have never felt like I enjoyed the taste of my food so much. Along with the subjectivity of taste came the realization that the greatest pleasure of eating is in the filling of a void--the satisfaction of hunger or thirst--in a primal type of fulfillment felt in every core of all our littlest parts. We erroneously, it seems to me, associate this deep joy with taste. I would argue that taste plays a subordinate role to this pleasure--that in the purest scenario the same as with the cravings we blindly train our bodies to have--the balancing of imbalances we as if willfully conduct, taste, good or bad, is the body's signal of a particular need, the answering of which is the actual joy. I want my taste buds, that is, to know their function, not to be the purpose.

...Of course, this is to suggest that being fed intraveneously is as enjoyable as eating. Would I hold to that? Hmmm... Ok. I'm done. Go Hieb or dkg or anyone...

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you said a mouthful

yeah, the subjectivity and malleability of taste.

but i'm not sure i understand your "shock". first of all let's keep in mind that part of the discussion here is whether the "organic" label should necessarily be equated with "healthy" at all. it never has been to some folks, like the secretary of agriculture who Pollan quotes as saying in 2000: "The organic label is a marketing tool. It is not a statement about food safety. Nor is 'organic' a value judgment about nutrition or quality."

in any event, it sounds to me like your post-Korea success was not in achieving an appreciation for the One True Food, but in developing or becoming aware of the mere fact of some cerebral control over your own taste buds. after reading the book you may still be "fooling yourself" by deliberately manipulating your own tastes, just as you did when you were still the "ignorant" reader, but nonetheless be the better for it. there's no contradiction there.

and likewise we can talk about pleasure that is not tied to eating the One True Food, but rather having considered your connection to what's on your plate -- a pleasure that may help fill the void, no matter how contrived.

anyway, talk of One True Food aside, there are certainly some objective criteria for what's "healthy" for us to eat. i'm hoping that the book will help me come up with some more well-rounded criteria for what's "better" for me to eat, looking at the picture a bit more holistically.

but ha you seem to be getting a little defensive there, old jaggy, in your last few posts... do not take it so hard, JAG: it's only in our uber-industrial society, where convenience is king, that we developed a taste for, in "sustainable" farmer Joel Salatin's words, "amalgamated, extruded, irradiated, genetically prostituted, adulterated fecal spam from the centralized processing conglomerate". ;)

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Me, defensive?

No, a little flustered perhaps. And there is much I wrote in my last post which I had thought and wrote about before--ideas for which I had to wrestle--perhaps that is the defensiveness you hear--or maybe I re-enter conversations with my mother (to whom everything "healthy" tastes like cardboard) or Suzy's mother (who for some reason feels she must fight against this "health" trend that Suzy and I are caught up in)--my conversation with the two of them is definitely behind one of my earlier posts: resistance to change and vanity, etc. Maybe I am defensive. Maybe I just write like I am. I don't think I am...

Whatever the case, I am enjoying your posts about the book and am feeling strongly that diet is a perfect example of the stylization of character--a part of that process, in which I am most deliberately involved. In fact, I just went to buy the book this weekend--it's sitting on my kitchen table.

Anyway, those are two great points: 1) "organic" is not synonymous with "health;" and 2) the control over our tastebuds is not insignificant despite my having possibly been deceived. I am fascinated (if flustered) by the subjective nature of Nature--of food and health and all the most basic things, our involvement with them and reaction to them--the powers of delusion. Generally, when thinkers think of relativity and its implications, they tend toward the many layers of consciousness, and not toward energy transference, which they either take for granted or consider inconsequential. Hmmm... Here is an apple, and here is a man eating that apple, and here begins an incredible process of energy transference. One a day keeps the doctor away. But how deeply, especially in those who have never questioned an apple even for a moment--how completely has the spider of our mind built her veil here?...

Keep it coming schniebs!

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